(18+) Would you ever date a post op trans sexual?

Moog- said:
It's not something that I would exclude; however, there are lots of factors involved here so it's a difficult question to answer.

Jackrabb1t said:
Absolutely not.

There are some things we are born with that we just have to accept, like it or not. Like the fact that we are born human, or only have two eyes and one head, or our birth gender.

Transgenders, in my mind, epitomize the concept of identity crisis.

How are they going to accept me if they couldn't even accept themself?

Hotwer said:


They way you're saying just sounds like only our DNA defines what we are, and this is not correct.

TallonKarrde23 said:
No, if someone isn't comfortable with who they were born as then I'm not comfortable with them. I have no problem with people like this existing, but there's no reason I should have to date one.

LadyRenly said:


But they'd be comfortable with who they are now.

LadyRenly said:


But they'd be comfortable with who they are now.

TallonKarrde23 said:


Congrats for them, how's that remotely relevant to what I stated? Oh, you're just trying to push your opinions around as if everyone has to share them or else they are evil bigots again.

Jackrabb1t said:
There are some lines that should not be crossed. Call me old fashioned, but I still believe that.

LadyRenly said:


No, I'm not pushing my opinions on you, Tallon. I was simply pointing something out. You said you were not comfortable with someone who isn't comfortable for who they were born as, all I as saying is that they are comfortable with who they are now, and isn't that would should ultimately matter? I'm not trying to judge your taste. Perhaps a strong sense of self or confidence in oneself is a trait you look for in a mate. I never claimed you were an evil bigot.

Hotwer said:
I know you have a point, but that's what I think we should see their side first, before ours.

Jackrabb1t said:
I think I see their side of things fairly well. They reject themselves and seek to rewrite nature. Fair enough. I'm not going to ostracize them, mistreat them, or humiliate them because of their decision.

But I will never date them.

Jackrabb1t said:
Absolutely not.

There are some things we are born with that we just have to accept, like it or not. Like the fact that we are born human, or only have two eyes and one head, or our birth gender.

Transgenders, in my mind, epitomize the concept of identity crisis.

How are they going to accept me if they couldn't even accept themself?

And why the heck does "themself" keep getting flagged by the spellchecker?

Kimono_Kitsune said:
So I take it you'd also never date someone who do breats implants or any kind of cirurgy since that's not how they were born as?

Kimono_Kitsune said:
So I take it you'd also never date someone who do breats implants or any kind of cirurgy since that's not how they were born as?

Hotwer said:


But that's what I said.

I know that was TL:DR, but sometimes they even don't have time to reject themselves, and are just considered with a bad medical condition. How you're supposed to make a difference beetween the ones that had time e the ones that doesn't?

Jackrabb1t said:
IDK, the ones who get a sex change because someone told them to are more idiotic than the ones who do it voluntarily? Sex changes aren't a "take this little pill, now you're male", you know...

Kimono_Kitsune said:
So I take it you'd also never date someone who do breast implants or any kind of cirurgy since that's not how they were born as?

Jackrabb1t said:
Well, I find breast implants to be revolting, and honestly even sadder than sex changes. At least most sex changes (probably) are something that people do for themselves, while breast implants are something a women does to meet other peoples' arbitrary standards of beauty. Disgusting and whorish. Sorry, I'm not gonna mince words on this one. That being said, people can change for the better, and I might end up with a woman who once decided to get breast implants.

I draw a hard line at dating people who have had a sex change though.

Jackrabb1t said:
IDK, the ones who get a sex change because someone told them to are more idiotic than the ones who do it voluntarily? Sex changes aren't a "take this little pill, now you're male", you know...

Hotwer said:


I know. I'm mentioning the early ones that turn into transexuals. Child ones. You can't treat then differently of another transexual. Also, it was a diagnosis, that's what I was saying about their medical condition.

Just to remember, I still understand your point.

Jackrabb1t said:
I wouldn't treat them differently from any other transsexual. I would not date a transsexual who became such as a child, just as I would not date one who willingly became such as an adult. I am thus very consistent in my dealings with all transsexuals.

I'm a bit confused what you are getting at?

Jackrabb1t said:
I wouldn't treat them differently from any other transsexual. I would not date a transsexual who became such as a child, just as I would not date one who willingly became such as an adult. I am thus very consistent in my dealings with all transsexuals.

I'm a bit confused what you are getting at?

Hotwer said:
same genitals, same everything.

Hotwer said:
same genitals

Hotwer said:


I'm just trying to understand what difference would exist from a normal person and a transexual one? They look the same, same genitals, same everything.

Red_Keys said:
As long as they were attractive, and you actually liked them, why would this be a problem? Not being attracted to somebody who is trans is one thing, but refusing to date one regardless of their personality/looks, for the sole reason that they are trans, is simply transphobic. No way around that.

I'd imagine that people would be averse to it for social connotation reasons, which is also part of transphobia, but maybe not coming from a place of hatred or disgust (rather literally fear of social outcast). Not that isn't much better. That reasoning still perpetuates transphobia. Also underlying homophobia as well.

DerpHole said:
Not really

hotstud6969 said:
different parts doe. they're not the same as a naturally real thing

Mogu-sama said:

Keys, you posted what I wanted to post but worded it better

OT: I'm worried about dating someone who is infertile (which is by extension, transsexuals), if we want kids that means no biological connection to either of the parents, I feel awkward about having a child with no blood relation to either of us. I'm infertile

But if I fall in love, I fall in love, so I'd deal with it. To rephrase: YesYa really

Hotwer said:


I'm just trying to understand what difference would exist from a normal person and a transexual one? They look the same, same genitals, same everything.

DerpHole said:


Not really

hotstud6969 said:
different past. different stories. (sorry thats like the same two things)

different parts doe. they're not the same as a naturally real thing

Mogu-sama said:
Ya really

Jackrabb1t said:
I find breast implants to be revolting, breast implants are something a women does to meet other peoples' arbitrary standards of beauty. Disgusting and whorish.

hotstud6969 said:
theres nothing wrong with having a child with no blood relation to you and your significant other tbh
I mean yeah, it's awkward, but you still love the kid as your own.

Hotwer said:


I know that, just looking, you would hardly see a phisical difference. So, it's about their past.

If this person where someone ejoyable, that you liked to talk about everything your day-after-day life. Someone that you'd love to be on your side, and, someday, this person tells you the truth, that he/she a transexual. You wouldn't even think a bit just to know you're not throwing a good relationship away?

Kimono_Kitsune said:

What's your opinion on make-up? Women who treat or die their hair? Aren't these also something "women do to meet other peoples' arbitrary standards of beauty"?